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Cathay Award Guide Using Alaska Airlines Miles
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.
Request your Partner Award reservation on Cathay Pacific by calling Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily.
Routing Rules:
- If it's not on the award chart, it's not allowed. For example EUROPE is To/From HKG only.
- Stopover are only allowed on any CX award for North America awards as destination or origin. For instance: intra-Asia awards do not get a stopover. It must be a North America->Somewhere or Somewhere->North America award to qualify for a stopover.
- The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones. For instance, Australia-Europe/Middle East/Asia outside of HKG will be two awards (breaking at HKG). The AS award chart can be misleading about this and give you the impression you can fly an award like Australia/Europe-ICN, but the chart for these award types will show "Hong Kong".
- One stop-over allowed on one way award. You can build open jaw and other advanced routings by booking multiple one way awards. Please note change fee rule below.
- Allegedly stop-over only in Hong Kong, but some have posted success in other enroute cities such as YVR or SEA.
- As of 5 June 2018 changes/cancellations made to a booking will incur a $125 fee which is waived for MVPG/MVPG75K. Bookings made prior to 5 June will be allowed one complimentary change or cancellation for up to 60 days prior to date of travel.
- Awards can be booked 330 days in advance.
- Cathay and Alaska (or an Alaska flight operated by SkyWest/Horizon on behalf of Alaska) are the only airlines allowed on a Cathay award. No other partner airlines may be used on a single award (e.g. American, JAL, Emirates).
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)
Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
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Nov 24, 2017, 11:38 pm
#1441
SilverChris
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YVR, KUL
Programs: AC, MH, BA, AF-KL
Posts: 2,918
It's worth noting that BA might display different CX award space depending on which country your account is registered in. There were times when BA showed zero award space using my account but AS, AA and JL could see it.. I logged into my mother's BA account and it matched what the other airlines could see.
Nov 24, 2017, 11:41 pm
#1442
Edgerfly
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: SEA, FLL, Martha’s Vineyard
Programs: AS MVPGold75K, Hilton Gold, IHG Platinum, Pan Am million-miler
Posts: 2,019
Originally Posted by SilverChris
It's worth noting that BA might display different CX award space depending on which country your account is registered in. There were times when BA showed zero award space using my account but AS, AA and JL could see it.. I logged into my mother's BA account and it matched what the other airlines could see.
I stopped using the BA tool. Its beyond terrible, and often shows phantom space, not just for Cathay. The best one is Qantas tool.
Nov 25, 2017, 12:08 am
#1443
Flying for Fun
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Originally Posted by Edgerfly
I stopped using the BA tool. Its beyond terrible, and often shows phantom space, not just for Cathay. The best one is Qantas tool.
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Nov 25, 2017, 11:48 am
#1444
ramosz83
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: aadvantage
Posts: 31
Award "upgrade"
Originally Posted by Winterfell86
Booked F for me HKG-LAX next September (331 days out). Booked J for my fiancé. AS agent told me to call again closer to departure to see if more F award opens up for upgrade. We did a "test" and the agent looked at HKG-LAX F availability the next week and saw lots of open space (1-2 F spots) on multiple flights. Who knows what the situation will be next Fall, but I'm getting excited!
this will be my first CX F flight. 
edit: total for me was 70,000 miles and about $85 in fees. Fiancé was 50,000 miles and about $85 in fees as well.
So when F space opens up and you already have a J or premium economy seat booked, do you just call to "upgrade" and pay the extra miles to get the available F seat? Are there any change fees associated with upgrading your award ticket?
Thanks.
Nov 25, 2017, 4:17 pm
#1445
eponymous_coward
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,455
Originally Posted by ramosz83
So when F space opens up and you already have a J or premium economy seat booked, do you just call to "upgrade" and pay the extra miles to get the available F seat? Are there any change fees associated with upgrading your award ticket?
Unless you have MVPG/75K status you will pay a $125 change fee within 60 days of your flight date.
Nov 25, 2017, 5:30 pm
#1446
Flying for Fun
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
Unless you have MVPG/75K status you will pay a $125 change fee within 60 days of your flight date.
And pay an additional 20,000 miles. 😁
Nov 28, 2017, 8:29 am
#1447
jay_dubya
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: NYC,MIA,XFL
Programs: AA EXP, B6 Mosaic, DL PM
Posts: 863
How close to departure can I cancel a Cathay flight booked with AS miles?
Nov 28, 2017, 9:21 am
#1448
jamienbaker
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,574
Originally Posted by jay_dubya
How close to departure can I cancel a Cathay flight booked with AS miles?
I've canceled both JL and CX awards, booked by AS, during the boarding process. Always got my miles back.
Nov 28, 2017, 9:40 am
#1449
jay_dubya
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: NYC,MIA,XFL
Programs: AA EXP, B6 Mosaic, DL PM
Posts: 863
Originally Posted by jamienbaker
I've canceled both JL and CX awards, booked by AS, during the boarding process. Always got my miles back.
Thanks! (After you boarded? 😂
Nov 28, 2017, 6:46 pm
#1450
ecgz88
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 836
can I book SYD-HKG-PVG(Stop)-HKG-YVR or I can only book SYD-HKG(Stop)-YVR ?
how many J normally will be available for out of Austrlia and HKG-YVR? 2?
Many Thanks!
Nov 28, 2017, 7:48 pm
#1451
eponymous_coward
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,455
Originally Posted by ecgz88
can I book SYD-HKG-PVG(Stop)-HKG-YVR or I can only book SYD-HKG(Stop)-YVR ?
You can book both, but only SYD-HKG-(stop)-YVR will be one award. SYD-HKG-PVG-HKG-YVR would be TWO awards per the wiki.
SYD-HKG-PVG
PVG-HKG-YVR
Nov 28, 2017, 11:24 pm
#1452
ecgz88
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 836
Thanks! so how many days in advance I should call AS? 360 days?
I remember check last year there's lots of days YVR-SYD Qantas J is available, now seems like only CX is available, did Qantas don't release reward seats any more?
Since I plan to trip in Christmas time, My big concern is if I wait till whole roundtrip flight became available then book, maybe the outbound trip is all gone by that time? maybe I should book 2 one way instead?
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
You can book both, but only SYD-HKG-(stop)-YVR will be one award. SYD-HKG-PVG-HKG-YVR would be TWO awards per the wiki.
SYD-HKG-PVG
PVG-HKG-YVR
Nov 28, 2017, 11:55 pm
#1453
jinglish
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
Originally Posted by ecgz88
Thanks! so how many days in advance I should call AS? 360 days?
I remember check last year there's lots of days YVR-SYD Qantas J is available, now seems like only CX is available, did Qantas don't release reward seats any more?
Since I plan to trip in Christmas time, My big concern is if I wait till whole roundtrip flight became available then book, maybe the outbound trip is all gone by that time? maybe I should book 2 one way instead?
1) AS is able to book ~330 days out.
2) QF does release awards; availability is just spotty.
3) Book it as a one-way to start, then call when the return segments are available and you can turn the reservation into a round trip.
Nov 29, 2017, 6:26 am
#1454
flytoeat
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,855
Originally Posted by ecgz88
Thanks! so how many days in advance I should call AS? 360 days?
I remember check last year there's lots of days YVR-SYD Qantas J is available, now seems like only CX is available, did Qantas don't release reward seats any more?
Since I plan to trip in Christmas time, My big concern is if I wait till whole roundtrip flight became available then book, maybe the outbound trip is all gone by that time? maybe I should book 2 one way instead?
Really no reason to book round trip.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:58 am
#1455
ecgz88
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 836
Originally Posted by flytoeat
Really no reason to book round trip.
I was thinking use JAL miles to book YVR-SYD(destination)-HKG(or NRT)-PVG(Stop)-HKG(or NRT)-YVR, only 120K miles ...... if I use AS to book 2 one way, on the return tip I can't get a stop over in PVG will have to book a separate HKG(or NRT)-PVG trip.
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